11-25-2007, 04:42 PM
Evil3 Wrote:Guy's I was talking to Dan over at RC products desgins, and he said that the Novak sysetm isn't recomended for the 8th scale cars. Also every one who was racing the electric 8th scales were useing the Mamba Max ESC.
Im sure novak wouldn't release a 1/8 conversion kit for it of they didnt test it and find it to work well. Why wouldnt the Novak HV system work? It works fine for an emaxx and that is about the same weight as a 1/8 buggy. Ive used the Novak HV Maxx system in an emaxx and it was very smooth with enough power. The sensorless brushless systems are more powerfull, but more power isnt necessarily better on the track. The smoothnes of the Novak system could be an advantage. I'm sure that Dan is going to tell you that the Novak kit and system is no good. He wants you to buy his conversion kit and run the Mamba Max/Feigao system that it is designed to accomodate. Dont get me wrong, that not meant to be a slam on Dan or rcproductdesigns. Ive talked to dan and even bought some stuff from him, but if I were in business and now looking at a big company like Novak entering a market that in the past had very little cometition, Id be worried and saying that too.
Yes, many people are using the Mamaba Max Speed control for their 1/8 electrics, but it is really intended for 1/10 vehicles so its pushing the capabilities of the Mamba Max, but it does work. (I'm running the MM ESC in my electric XB8-EC now) There is no way you could run the Mamba Max motor in a 1/8. It would overheat in no time with that kind of load on it. The people using the Mamba Max are using the Mamba Max speed control with a Feigao 540XL, or Lener 1940 or 1950 sized motor. The reason people are using anyway is becasue it is half the price of a ESC that is more specifically designed for a 1/8 application. The downside of the Mamba Max is that they wont run the best motor out there. The Neu motors are 4 pole and the Neu 1515 or 1512 size motors are by far the best motor for the 1/8 applications. Cool running an crazy powerful. But they require a better speed conrol than the Mamba Max to run it. Hopefully the Mamba Monster Max is released in January (thats the date they are giving now but who knows with Castle, they never make their dates) and then there will be a drop in solution with no messing around.
I've been running eletric 1/8 buggies, truggys, revos, and savages for a few years already and its finaly about to go mainstream which will be nice. Up till now i have had to custom make everything. Itll be nice to just buy a kit and toss in a pre set motor speed control combo and just run it.
BTW, Novak is releaseing conversion kits, but they have been available for a while from RC-Monster.com and rcproductdesigns.com for a while. I prefer the rc-monster stuff to the rcproductdesigns stuff. It seems a little better designed to me, but... the rcproduct designs are complete kits with battery trays and all speciffically designed for the vehicals. All of this will be obsolete soon anyway. It wont be long before the big companies are designing 1/8 specifically designed to run electric. I have heard more tha one rumor about more than one of the big mainstream companies being hard at work on factory electric 1/8ths. I'll bet that by the end of 2008 there will be a factory 1/8 available.
Wow... sorry about writting a book here.
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