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#1
so im ordering king headz parts for my losi 8 and i come across this part:
KP-220-2x2 - Toe/Anti-squat Pivot Brace - T2/A2
as you all know, my buggy was bout as an rtr but now is in the finall pro conversion stages.

so before i order these hinge pin braces, i have a few questions.

1) i dont understand exactly what anti-squat does or how it works
2) how do i decide which one to get...there are a couple different ones

can anyone help? right now i have the stock braces that have the crappy plastic covers on them. so i want to upgrade, but dont wanna grab the wrong braces.

thanks
LOSI 8IGHT B.....o.s v-spec .21
DM-1....Mario Rossi Tuned .21
ROLLER NEEDED FOR....NovaRossi P5X
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#1
so im ordering king headz parts for my losi 8 and i come across this part:
KP-220-2x2 - Toe/Anti-squat Pivot Brace - T2/A2
as you all know, my buggy was bout as an rtr but now is in the finall pro conversion stages.

so before i order these hinge pin braces, i have a few questions.

1) i dont understand exactly what anti-squat does or how it works
2) how do i decide which one to get...there are a couple different ones

can anyone help? right now i have the stock braces that have the crappy plastic covers on them. so i want to upgrade, but dont wanna grab the wrong braces.

thanks
LOSI 8IGHT B.....o.s v-spec .21
DM-1....Mario Rossi Tuned .21
ROLLER NEEDED FOR....NovaRossi P5X
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#2
Get this;

[M2C7080] M2C Racing Losi 8ight Rear AntiSquat Plate (3° Toe/3° AntiSquat) w/ Front Block

$10 more but it comes with a f/r plate, and it uses TTR pivot balls to hold the hinge pins so if they ever wear out you just replace them (<$10) whereas when the khz plate wears out, you gotta buy a new one.
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#2
Get this;

[M2C7080] M2C Racing Losi 8ight Rear AntiSquat Plate (3° Toe/3° AntiSquat) w/ Front Block

$10 more but it comes with a f/r plate, and it uses TTR pivot balls to hold the hinge pins so if they ever wear out you just replace them (<$10) whereas when the khz plate wears out, you gotta buy a new one.
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#3
Found this on Antisquat;

More More anti-squat generally makes the rear of the car more sensitive to throttle input.
The car has more steering while braking, and also a little more powering out of corners.
On high-traction tracks, it may feel as if the car momentarily has more rear traction accellerating out of corners.
A car with more anti-squat can also jump a little higher and further, and it will soak up bumps a little better, off-power.
A lot of anti-squat (4° or more) can make the car spin out in turns, and make the rear end break loose when accellerating.
Less Less anti-squat gives more rear traction while accellerating on a slippery or dusty track.
It also gives more side-bite.
Less anti-squat will make the car accellerate better and faster through bumpy sections.
Very little anti-squat (0° or 1°Wink makes the rear end feel very stable. It also makes power sliding a lot easier.
Note that anti-squat only works when you're accellerating or braking, it does absolutely nothing when you're coasting through turns.
The harder you brake or accellerate, the bigger the effect of anti-squat is.
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#3
Found this on Antisquat;

More More anti-squat generally makes the rear of the car more sensitive to throttle input.
The car has more steering while braking, and also a little more powering out of corners.
On high-traction tracks, it may feel as if the car momentarily has more rear traction accellerating out of corners.
A car with more anti-squat can also jump a little higher and further, and it will soak up bumps a little better, off-power.
A lot of anti-squat (4° or more) can make the car spin out in turns, and make the rear end break loose when accellerating.
Less Less anti-squat gives more rear traction while accellerating on a slippery or dusty track.
It also gives more side-bite.
Less anti-squat will make the car accellerate better and faster through bumpy sections.
Very little anti-squat (0° or 1°Wink makes the rear end feel very stable. It also makes power sliding a lot easier.
Note that anti-squat only works when you're accellerating or braking, it does absolutely nothing when you're coasting through turns.
The harder you brake or accellerate, the bigger the effect of anti-squat is.
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#4
so what do you think a good general purpose degree of anti-squat would be?

3 degrees?
LOSI 8IGHT B.....o.s v-spec .21
DM-1....Mario Rossi Tuned .21
ROLLER NEEDED FOR....NovaRossi P5X
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#4
so what do you think a good general purpose degree of anti-squat would be?

3 degrees?
LOSI 8IGHT B.....o.s v-spec .21
DM-1....Mario Rossi Tuned .21
ROLLER NEEDED FOR....NovaRossi P5X
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#5
I'm running that M2C 3 3 plate...I like it.
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#5
I'm running that M2C 3 3 plate...I like it.
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#6
Ponch Wrote:I'm running that M2C 3 3 plate...I like it.

cool...i think thats where ill start then.

thanks
LOSI 8IGHT B.....o.s v-spec .21
DM-1....Mario Rossi Tuned .21
ROLLER NEEDED FOR....NovaRossi P5X
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#6
Ponch Wrote:I'm running that M2C 3 3 plate...I like it.

cool...i think thats where ill start then.

thanks
LOSI 8IGHT B.....o.s v-spec .21
DM-1....Mario Rossi Tuned .21
ROLLER NEEDED FOR....NovaRossi P5X
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#7
Ponch Wrote:Get this;

[M2C7080] M2C Racing Losi 8ight Rear AntiSquat Plate (3° Toe/3° AntiSquat) w/ Front Block

$10 more but it comes with a f/r plate, and it uses TTR pivot balls to hold the hinge pins so if they ever wear out you just replace them (<$10) whereas when the khz plate wears out, you gotta buy a new one.

what kind of material are these made of?
LOSI 8IGHT B.....o.s v-spec .21
DM-1....Mario Rossi Tuned .21
ROLLER NEEDED FOR....NovaRossi P5X
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#7
Ponch Wrote:Get this;

[M2C7080] M2C Racing Losi 8ight Rear AntiSquat Plate (3° Toe/3° AntiSquat) w/ Front Block

$10 more but it comes with a f/r plate, and it uses TTR pivot balls to hold the hinge pins so if they ever wear out you just replace them (<$10) whereas when the khz plate wears out, you gotta buy a new one.

what kind of material are these made of?
LOSI 8IGHT B.....o.s v-spec .21
DM-1....Mario Rossi Tuned .21
ROLLER NEEDED FOR....NovaRossi P5X
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#8
I believe 7075 aluminum. They're real nice.
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#8
I believe 7075 aluminum. They're real nice.
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#9
Ponch Wrote:I believe 7075 aluminum. They're real nice.

that link that you posted actually had a handfull of stuff that i needed...thanks bro
LOSI 8IGHT B.....o.s v-spec .21
DM-1....Mario Rossi Tuned .21
ROLLER NEEDED FOR....NovaRossi P5X
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#9
Ponch Wrote:I believe 7075 aluminum. They're real nice.

that link that you posted actually had a handfull of stuff that i needed...thanks bro
LOSI 8IGHT B.....o.s v-spec .21
DM-1....Mario Rossi Tuned .21
ROLLER NEEDED FOR....NovaRossi P5X
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