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Obsessed F/X, custom paint - Tex - 08-02-2006
Jerry, I have a clear revo body calling your name! seriously, I'd love to pimp one of your schemes
Obsessed F/X, custom paint - FreeRideFrosty - 08-02-2006
Czech-it-Out Graphics Wrote:jerry up ur prices man! ur work is deserving of a good buck
You just don't want to look like you are screwing people..... be honest. :p:
Obsessed F/X, custom paint - Czech-it-Out Graphics - 08-02-2006
chit dan im giving it away believe me
Obsessed F/X, custom paint - rocco79 - 08-02-2006
Czech-it-Out Graphics Wrote:jerry up ur prices man! ur work is deserving of a good buck
Yeah jerry otherwise there is going to be a bunch of airbrush guys waiting for you after you get off work.....:eek:
Obsessed F/X, custom paint - UE-Maxx - 08-02-2006
Really nice. Look awesome.
Obsessed F/X, custom paint - DAVEC-NITRO-RS4 - 08-02-2006
FreeRideJunkie Wrote:You just don't want to look like you are screwing people..... be honest. :p:
Can I comment here...kinda parallel topic..could be a new thread maybe, but here goes.
Painting car bodies is a funny deal. Everybody wants a cool looking custom shell. They see Mike's works and fall in love with the detailed pinstriping and CF look, multi-colors, etc... Then they ask for a quote...well, it's a six color scheme, with miles of flames and pinstripes, and it takes (how long, Mike?) hours to mask and cut, and spray, and clean the airbrush between colors, etc.
and then they are shocked when a painter asks $75 for his work. Well, coming from a newb painter, I can tell you that the materials and your time add up to a whole lot more than you can get people to pay. I do see some guys who do decent jobs getting $70-90 for bodies on eBay, but face it, eBay business is a bit a hassle within itself.
Mike's work is right up there with the guys we see in the mags, and we know it because he's been in the mags. He's on the top racers. Jerry's work is fantastic also, he custom mixes and multilayers colors to achieve unique results (how many colors make up that "orange" again, Jerry?).
For anyone who thinks a multicolor, detailed body for $40 is too low, you're right! For anyone who thinks $125 for a wicked Czech maxxed out body is too high, you are wrong!
Again, speaking for my own experience, getting results like Mike and Jerry (and others) is not easy. The time it takes to learn it and do it right are valuable. Don't believe me, go out and drop $100 on your own airbrush, another $80 for 15-20 colors and liquid mask film, $50 for a compressor, and get to work painting your own shells. In about a week you will start appreciating the value of either Jerry or Mike.
Obsessed F/X, custom paint - UE-Maxx - 08-02-2006
That is really true, Dave.
Having only airbrushed two bodies and having the results come no where near Jerries or Mikes work, they are way under payed. It does take a lot of time and effort.
Obsessed F/X, custom paint - DAVEC-NITRO-RS4 - 08-02-2006
Yep, it kills me that RC'ers will drop $100 a set on tires that might work on a a given track, they'll swap motors at $300 a pop, they upgrade radios, they buy tools, they add KHZ upgrade parts like they're free, but ask them to part with a fair price for a custom paint job and immediately the price negotiations start. "gee, that much? I thought it would be like $40 max!". How many times have we heard that? Well, from now on I'm telling people that if they want cheap prices they can pick any single solid color they want for $15. If you want a design masked, cut and painted, is gonna be more. If they cannot afford a better looking shell, they can always just cover their old stock one with duct or electrical tape and hit the track stylin' !
Obsessed F/X, custom paint - rocco79 - 08-02-2006
DAVEC-NITRO-RS4 Wrote:Can I comment here...kinda parallel topic..could be a new thread maybe, but here goes.
Painting car bodies is a funny deal. Everybody wants a cool looking custom shell. They see Mike's works and fall in love with the detailed pinstriping and CF look, multi-colors, etc... Then they ask for a quote...well, it's a six color scheme, with miles of flames and pinstripes, and it takes (how long, Mike?) hours to mask and cut, and spray, and clean the airbrush between colors, etc.
and then they are shocked when a painter asks $75 for his work. Well, coming from a newb painter, I can tell you that the materials and your time add up to a whole lot more than you can get people to pay. I do see some guys who do decent jobs getting $70-90 for bodies on eBay, but face it, eBay business is a bit a hassle within itself.
Mike's work is right up there with the guys we see in the mags, and we know it because he's been in the mags. He's on the top racers. Jerry's work is fantastic also, he custom mixes and multilayers colors to achieve unique results (how many colors make up that "orange" again, Jerry?).
For anyone who thinks a multicolor, detailed body for $40 is too low, you're right! For anyone who thinks $125 for a wicked Czech maxxed out body is too high, you are wrong!
Again, speaking for my own experience, getting results like Mike and Jerry (and others) is not easy. The time it takes to learn it and do it right are valuable. Don't believe me, go out and drop $100 on your own airbrush, another $80 for 15-20 colors and liquid mask film, $50 for a compressor, and get to work painting your own shells. In about a week you will start appreciating the value of either Jerry or Mike.
++++1
Obsessed F/X, custom paint - rocco79 - 08-02-2006
DAVEC-NITRO-RS4 Wrote:Yep, it kills me that RC'ers will drop $100 a set on tires that might work on a a given track, they'll swap motors at $300 a pop, they upgrade radios, they buy tools, they add KHZ upgrade parts like they're free, but ask them to part with a fair price for a custom paint job and immediately the price negotiations start. "gee, that much? I thought it would be like $40 max!". How many times have we heard that? Well, from now on I'm telling people that if they want cheap prices they can pick any single solid color they want for $15. If you want a design masked, cut and painted, is gonna be more. If they cannot afford a better looking shell, they can always just cover their old stock one with duct or electrical tape and hit the track stylin' !
LOL!!! +2
Oh and im glad you corrected your simpsons quote in your sig line!
Obsessed F/X, custom paint - DAVEC-NITRO-RS4 - 08-02-2006
Matt (R2K) pointed out the error in my sig. I changed that sig the other night when I was on the computer and heard the Simpsons on, and I didn't actually see who said the line... Matt straightened me out.
Obsessed F/X, custom paint - joey - 08-02-2006
DAVEC-NITRO-RS4 Wrote:Can I comment here...kinda parallel topic..could be a new thread maybe, but here goes.++++11111
Painting car bodies is a funny deal. Everybody wants a cool looking custom shell. They see Mike's works and fall in love with the detailed pinstriping and CF look, multi-colors, etc... Then they ask for a quote...well, it's a six color scheme, with miles of flames and pinstripes, and it takes (how long, Mike?) hours to mask and cut, and spray, and clean the airbrush between colors, etc.
and then they are shocked when a painter asks $75 for his work. Well, coming from a newb painter, I can tell you that the materials and your time add up to a whole lot more than you can get people to pay. I do see some guys who do decent jobs getting $70-90 for bodies on eBay, but face it, eBay business is a bit a hassle within itself.
Mike's work is right up there with the guys we see in the mags, and we know it because he's been in the mags. He's on the top racers. Jerry's work is fantastic also, he custom mixes and multilayers colors to achieve unique results (how many colors make up that "orange" again, Jerry?).
For anyone who thinks a multicolor, detailed body for $40 is too low, you're right! For anyone who thinks $125 for a wicked Czech maxxed out body is too high, you are wrong!
Again, speaking for my own experience, getting results like Mike and Jerry (and others) is not easy. The time it takes to learn it and do it right are valuable. Don't believe me, go out and drop $100 on your own airbrush, another $80 for 15-20 colors and liquid mask film, $50 for a compressor, and get to work painting your own shells. In about a week you will start appreciating the value of either Jerry or Mike.
Obsessed F/X, custom paint - joey - 08-02-2006
that why i couldnt bring myself to sell the revo shell i had mike do, even though i don't own a revo anymore, people on ebay were whining that i wanted $100 for it , i told them to mind thier own and get to steppin lol so now it sits as a peice of art work on my rc room wall
Obsessed F/X, custom paint - DAVEC-NITRO-RS4 - 08-02-2006
It's other "proper use" !!! That is also my plan for my Czech shell once it's done. Artwork, for sure.
Sorry to clutter your thread Jerry. And I also admire your paint work very much, as well. I'd hate to mount and smash a body done by either of you guys.
Obsessed F/X, custom paint - Obsessive R/C - 08-02-2006
Tex Wrote:Jerry, I have a clear revo body calling your name! seriously, I'd love to pimp one of your schemesBring it on brother!!
Obsessed F/X, custom paint - Obsessive R/C - 08-02-2006
DAVEC-NITRO-RS4 Wrote:Can I comment here...kinda parallel topic..could be a new thread maybe, but here goes.
Painting car bodies is a funny deal. Everybody wants a cool looking custom shell. They see Mike's works and fall in love with the detailed pinstriping and CF look, multi-colors, etc... Then they ask for a quote...well, it's a six color scheme, with miles of flames and pinstripes, and it takes (how long, Mike?) hours to mask and cut, and spray, and clean the airbrush between colors, etc.
and then they are shocked when a painter asks $75 for his work. Well, coming from a newb painter, I can tell you that the materials and your time add up to a whole lot more than you can get people to pay. I do see some guys who do decent jobs getting $70-90 for bodies on eBay, but face it, eBay business is a bit a hassle within itself.
Mike's work is right up there with the guys we see in the mags, and we know it because he's been in the mags. He's on the top racers. Jerry's work is fantastic also, he custom mixes and multilayers colors to achieve unique results (how many colors make up that "orange" again, Jerry?).
For anyone who thinks a multicolor, detailed body for $40 is too low, you're right! For anyone who thinks $125 for a wicked Czech maxxed out body is too high, you are wrong!
Again, speaking for my own experience, getting results like Mike and Jerry (and others) is not easy. The time it takes to learn it and do it right are valuable. Don't believe me, go out and drop $100 on your own airbrush, another $80 for 15-20 colors and liquid mask film, $50 for a compressor, and get to work painting your own shells. In about a week you will start appreciating the value of either Jerry or Mike.
+1 again....very well said Dave.I do it for fun only...I completely lose my a$$ money/time wise. One of the reasons I don't charge more is because I don't commit to a specific time frame. They get done when they get done...it may be three days it may be a month...but that is determined upfront with whoever I'm dealing with. Also I get alot of people allowing me to do whatever I want without any real guidelines. That type of artistic license to experiment is very cool and allows me to experiment. It can also lead to delays because of creativity blocks. I am freakishly particular with my results and don't always feel comfortable charging a premium for an experimental design or color concept. If I have someone that is very specific and requests a certain intricate design that is obviously time consuming and difficult, they know what they are in for and are not shocked at a slightly higher price. The prices do not include the body, it's for the paintjob only. Friends, board members and repeat customers are always taken care of, get a good deal and are usually more than satisfied with the results.
Obsessed F/X, custom paint - joey - 08-02-2006
those are wicked paint jobs, i really like how you incorporated the lines of the buggy body into the paint scheme great paint
Obsessed F/X, custom paint - Tex - 08-02-2006
YGPM Jerry
Obsessed F/X, custom paint - Czech-it-Out Graphics - 08-02-2006
very well said dave, on the last bodies i did i think i made a whoping 3$ an hour
Obsessed F/X, custom paint - kevinF - 08-02-2006
dang thats not much at all
Obsessed F/X, custom paint - Czech-it-Out Graphics - 08-02-2006
reallly? lol man now i can go and fill my gas tank too....
Obsessed F/X, custom paint - Obsessive R/C - 08-02-2006
Yeah, when you break down the time + materials the complex ones will drain you.
Tex- back at ya
Obsessed F/X, custom paint - Sh1nn3r - 08-02-2006
I would say one of the reasons why I wouldnt pay 100 bucks for a shell custom painted b/c you know the one time you flip the car and land hard there goes that beautiful paint job, that would drive me nuts. Someday I might drop some cash on a painted body but one color and a but load of stickers works pretty good for me now adays. Obesseive if you have any time ill give you a body and you can go crazy with it 40 bucks is a great deal.
Obsessed F/X, custom paint - Obsessive R/C - 08-02-2006
No problem Sh1nn3r.
The thing is...(remember this is jmo)...sometime people forget that they are dealing with toy cars...unless your specifically participating in concours shows these bodies do not have to be absolutley flawless. They will be raced or bashed, flipped over and scratched. I painted real show cars and custom bikes for years and the stress of absolute perfection and rediculous amounts of scrutiny take the fun out of custom painting. Several weeks or even months of work can be ruined in a flash...not to mention hundreds or even thousands of dollars in materials and labor. With the R/C bodies, at a cost of giving your labor away or worst case scenario replacing a body and starting over...you don't have nearly the risk. Don't get me wrong ...I still have a habit of stressing out over the smallest of imperfections...but that's just the way I am.
Obsessed F/X, custom paint - FreeRideFrosty - 08-03-2006
Allright..... how much for some nice airbrushing on a 1:1 car then??