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Long Vs. Short Travel - FreeRideFrosty - 11-12-2005
I just switched the rockers over on the revo to feel the dfference in travel. I think the long ones would be fun for just screwing around running stuff over. I have the feeling that once that thing takes to the air with the long travel on it would be really unstable. I plan on changing it back... anyone else have any experience?
Long Vs. Short Travel - DAVEC-NITRO-RS4 - 11-12-2005
Never changed them. I recall the early reviewers saying they are more for rough terrain crawling etc...
I'm switching to P2's (like soooo many others) to tighten up the suspension a little. Along with stiffer springs.
Long Vs. Short Travel - satoch - 11-12-2005
Read the manual. %90 of your questions can be answered there and by watching the DVD. Next, use the "search" feature on the Traxxas website revo thread. I can gaurantee, every question you have can be answered there. It's really easy.
Long Vs. Short Travel - Notochord - 11-13-2005
i think he was asking what you guys thought about the diffrence
Long Vs. Short Travel - Tex - 11-13-2005
FreeRide, feel free to ask any questions you might have at anytime here. This is not the Traxxas board and we don't require you to search before you ask questions. Please feel free to question us......
to answer your question, I've never tried the long rockers.
Long Vs. Short Travel - Michowski - 11-13-2005
IMO the long travel rockers are only good for crawling. Theres just way to much suspension for just bashing and jumping. Rock crawling is the only good use i found with them. Otherwise p1 or p2 for bashing work great.
Long Vs. Short Travel - FreeRideFrosty - 11-13-2005
Tex, Noto, Mich... thank you. Satoch... if you don't want to answer you don't need to. I don't like the atmosphere of the Traxxas boards, so I refuse to post there. If that bothers you, my apologies.
Now anyway... since I have come to agree with michowski on this one, The P2 will be more progressive than the P1 or less?? (more progressive would start out more plush but end the same as the less progressive... correct?)
I just want to make sure that I do this right. I will probably get different pushrods and then whatever rocker/spring combination that will reduce the sag a little bit and stiffen up the travel over all. It feels decent, but still too soft stock.
And did anyone else have any problems changing the rockers?? The rears ended up pulling the posts out and I had to put those back in with a socket, and then the lower bearings DID NOT want to slide back down the post after they were taken off. (Another reason that I want to figure out the setup and not have to keep changing it.)
Thanks again.
Long Vs. Short Travel - Obsessive R/C - 11-13-2005
I'm not trying to discourage posting questions in any way, but I think Saotch was trying to be be helpful.
Anyway....I found these to be really helpful in settting up a Revo...
Part 1: http://www.traxxas.com/support/pub/revo_performance_setup_guide.htm
Part 2: http://www.traxxas.com/support/pub/revo_performance_sc.htm
Long Vs. Short Travel - DAVEC-NITRO-RS4 - 11-13-2005
Obsessive R/C Wrote:I'm not trying to discourage posting questions in any way, but I think Saotch was trying to be be helpful.
Anyway....I found these to be really helpful in settting up a Revo...
Part 1: http://www.traxxas.com/support/pub/revo_performance_setup_guide.htm
Part 2: http://www.traxxas.com/support/pub/revo_performance_sc.htm
+1 on ORC's links. If this is track tested setups from a guy who works/races for TRX I suspect he's tried just about everything and can speak to what works. I plan to follow his suspension setup sheet and have already done the steering stop mod (cuz it was free). Good pointer to the exact info requested. I'm sure you saved him many hours of Traxxas surfing. That can be a good learning session, but sometimes getting handed the answer is better.
Just push the EASY button !!!!
Long Vs. Short Travel - Tex - 11-13-2005
LOL on the Easy button!
yeah searching is a pain in the but unless your really bored. Just ask! That's what we are here for!
No doubt Slaydaddy knows his stuff and his articles are always full of usefull information.
Oh and Dave, that piece that you grind down for more steering doesn't even need to be on the truck period, it doesn't hold anything on and has no structual purpose at all for the revo. It is simply a steering stop and if you grind the stops off, it has no purpose at all. Alot of us just remove it completely from the truck
Long Vs. Short Travel - DAVEC-NITRO-RS4 - 11-13-2005
It does provide a teeny bit of extra support for the middle of the front skid, and backs the area right behind the front lower arms, but I know better than to question you. I will have It apart this week to fix the busted arm.
Long Vs. Short Travel - RobH - 11-13-2005
I am not god, please question me where needed....I am not even 1/4 of the way to knowing everything that has to do with RC cars......
******this is Tex at Robs house
Long Vs. Short Travel - DAVEC-NITRO-RS4 - 11-13-2005
RobH Wrote:I am not god, please question me where needed....I am not even 1/4 of the way to knowing everything that has to do with RC cars......
******this is Tex at Robs house
I'm just givin' ya chit, Tex at Rob's house.
I welcome the insights of those who have bashed this trail before me.
Long Vs. Short Travel - Michowski - 11-13-2005
tex did you actually remove that steering peice? Ive never heard of anybody actually removing it.
Long Vs. Short Travel - snakebite46 - 11-13-2005
I dont run that steering peice for several months now. Got the idea off of someone on the grid.
Long Vs. Short Travel - FreeRideFrosty - 11-14-2005
I may take it off and I may grind it down... not sure yet. I imagine it would help protect the steering linkage durint some hard bash sessions... but I think thats about it.
I did some crawling with the Revo today and was pleasantly surprised. I have to say that it would have been very frusterating if I had a FOC.
Long Vs. Short Travel - Michowski - 11-14-2005
damn so you dont need that steering peice? I never knew that
Long Vs. Short Travel - FreeRideFrosty - 11-14-2005
Yeah... I looked at it again too and it looks like anything that it would brace is accomplished by whatever is right behind it. ( I am not looking at the truck so I can't remember.) Definitely does not look important structurally. I'll probably take it off and keep it just to make sure.
Long Vs. Short Travel - DAVEC-NITRO-RS4 - 11-14-2005
FreeRideJunkie Wrote:Yeah... I looked at it again too and it looks like anything that it would brace is accomplished by whatever is right behind it. ( I am not looking at the truck so I can't remember.) Definitely does not look important structurally. I'll probably take it off and keep it just to make sure.
I had mine apart last night to fix the lower front arm. YOU NEED THE STEERING STOP PART!!! It also supports the rear end of the lower arm hinge pins! Look closely and you'll see the pads that support the pins. The skid plate has the pockets that hold the other side in place. Take away that part and the pins are unsupported on the outboard ends.
Long Vs. Short Travel - Tex - 11-14-2005
I think you have the parts mixed up as to exactly what part we are talking about. At least it seems that way because the steering bump stop brace does not hold any hinge pins in place
Long Vs. Short Travel - snakebite46 - 11-14-2005
It is suppose to support the rear on the pin. But in my experience, I havent bend or broken any pins without it installed.
Long Vs. Short Travel - DAVEC-NITRO-RS4 - 11-14-2005
Tex Wrote:I think you have the parts mixed up as to exactly what part we are talking about. At least it seems that way because the steering bump stop brace does not hold any hinge pins in place
It doesn't hold them but the pins rest against it. The ends of the pins are captured between the steering stop and skid plate.
Go to this explode view http://www.traxxas.com/products/nitro/revo/blueprints/050722_revo_front.pdf
and zoom in on the skid plate area and you will see the "pocket" the pin ends sit in. The top of the pocket is closed off by the "blocks" that molded into the steering stop brace. With the brace removed the area above the pins is loose and the pins are subject to possible damage. I know Snake says his pins haven't bent, but it doesn't mean they won't. By letting the pins move in an upward direction, it puts stress on the arms and the mount at the other end of the pins, which is the bulkhead housing.
Long Vs. Short Travel - DAVEC-NITRO-RS4 - 11-14-2005
And Tex, I'm not mixing things up. My shrink says I'm cured of that problem
:moon:
Long Vs. Short Travel - FreeRideFrosty - 11-14-2005
Allright... so shave them and dont remove it... gotcha.
Long Vs. Short Travel - DAVEC-NITRO-RS4 - 11-14-2005
FreeRideJunkie Wrote:Allright... so shave them and dont remove it... gotcha.
Or remove it....whatever.
Seriously, FRJ, it's easy enough to grind it down and re-install it. You have to take it apart to remove it, so why not leave it the way Traxxas designed it, only modded for more travel?