+- ChitownRC (https://www.chitownrc.com)
+-- Forum: Main Forums (https://www.chitownrc.com/forum-4.html)
+--- Forum: Racers Forum (https://www.chitownrc.com/forum-9.html)
+--- Thread: General truggy/arena talk (/thread-1501.html)
General truggy/arena talk - Czech-it-Out Graphics - 11-21-2005
nobody could notice that .5lbs in the cars driving especially with a .28 lol
General truggy/arena talk - Michowski - 11-21-2005
i could notice it. From just adding fuel tubing i could tell my greevo had slower lap times compared to having shorter fuel line. Maybe you just dont got the skillz mike? :blah: lol jk
General truggy/arena talk - rocco79 - 11-21-2005
Mich is was the extra weight of the tube slowing that aneimic TM!!! LOL!! J/k!!
General truggy/arena talk - snakebite46 - 01-15-2006
Alot of running truggies need a place to chit-chat.
What are the LSP guys running for front kick-up and rear anti-squat ? I got the KHZ plates coming and wanna make some adjustments. I got the truck feeling good on the track with the current set-up but looking for some of your set-ups.
General truggy/arena talk - Eracer76 - 01-15-2006
Good idea on the thread
My set-up is pretty much stock as far as kick-up and anti-squat is concerned.
I think mine feels good, but still wish I had some more steering, off and on power.
Ive been wanting that since day one though
Ive made some suspension adjustments that seemed to help, but I still think wheels/tires make the biggest difference for me, Im still searching for the perfect combo though.
Do you want us to list our complete set-ups?
It would be cool to compare, but it seems some people dont want to share their secrets unless you ask for details.
General truggy/arena talk - rocco79 - 01-15-2006
Front
Shocks- 70wt, black springs 4mm preload.
Stock sway bar
0* degree kick up
2* degree camber
2* degree toe
ackerman arm rear holes
3k diff fluid
Center
5k diff fluid
13/50 gearing
Rear
King headz stock * degree anti squat
2*degree rear toe plate
1k diff fluid
shocks 80wt, Blue springs , largest preload spacer (cant remember what mm)
2* degrees camber
General truggy/arena talk - snakebite46 - 01-15-2006
Heres what I got in mine.
If it's not listed, it probally stock. I got the set-up from Kendall @ A-main hobbies and tweaked it alittle .
Front:
------
Oil.............. 60W
Pistons.......... Stock
Spring........... Stock black springs
Ride height ..... Bones level
Shock pos........ outside on arm, Upper Middle on tower
Shock ends....... Racers Edge 3.0mm Aluminum (longer)
Shock travel..... Quite a bit limited, probably 4-5mm
Ackerman pos..... Rear
Sway bar......... Stock 3.0mm
Front Caster..... 17 Degrees
Upper arm pos.... Top holes
Diff oil......... 7000wt
Camber........... -2 degrees
Toe.............. .5 out
Tires............ C compound Boa's
Foams............ Panther dark grey
Center:
-------
Diff............. 10000wt
Brakes........... Stock 70/30 bias
Spur Gear........ 50 tooth
Clutch Bell...... 14 tooth
Clutch Shoes.....Mugen Carbon
Clutch Springs... Mugen 1.0
Engine........... Novarossi 528XR Eb Modded
Cooling Head..... Stock
Tuned pipe....... RB 9886 long header
Steering Servo... Air 359z
Throttle Servo... Air 360z
Rear:
-----
Oil.............. 60wt
Pistons.......... Stock
Spring........... Stock black springs
Ride height ..... Bones level
Shock pos........ Inside on arm, Upper Middle on tower
Shock ends....... Racers Edge 3.0mm Aluminum (longer)
Shock travel..... Quite a bit limited, probably 10mm
Upper arm pos.... Top hole
Arm pos hub...... Outer
Camber........... -2
Toe in........... 59mm (3 degrees)
Diff oil......... 4000
Sway bar......... Stock 3.0mm
Wing position.... Flat
Tires............ Panther C compound Boa's
Foams............panther Dark greys
General truggy/arena talk - rocco79 - 01-16-2006
woah! Those oils are thick if thats what you run
General truggy/arena talk - dentguy92 - 01-16-2006
Oil.............. 60W
Pistons.......... Stock
Spring........... Stock black springs
Ride height ..... Bones level
Shock pos........ in side on arm, Upper Middle on tower
Shock ends....... stock
Shock travel..... Quite a bit limited, probably 4-5mm
Ackerman pos..... frunt
Sway bar......... off
Front Caster..... 17 Degrees
Upper arm pos.... Top holes
Diff oil......... 3000wt
Camber........... -2 degrees
Toe.............. -1.5 out
Center:
-------
Diff............. 5000wt
Spur Gear........ 50 tooth
Clutch Bell...... 13 tooth
Engine........... Novarossi P5
Tuned pipe....... JP-2 long header
Rear:
-----
Oil.............. 50wt
Pistons.......... Stock
Spring........... Blue Med.
Ride height ..... Bones level
Shock pos........ Inside on arm, Middle on tower
Shock ends....... Stock
Shock travel..... Only 2 or 3 mm
Upper arm pos.... Middle hole
Arm pos hub...... Outer
Camber........... -2
Toe in........... 56mm (KZ stock)
Diff oil......... 2000
General truggy/arena talk - Tex - 01-16-2006
http://www.chitownrc.com/showthread.php?t=1481
General truggy/arena talk - snakebite46 - 01-16-2006
Damn.........Gabe can you merge the 2 together ?
General truggy/arena talk - Notochord - 01-16-2006
lol
General truggy/arena talk - Tex - 01-16-2006
Done!
General truggy/arena talk - Eracer76 - 01-16-2006
Ok, I finally found the time to post my set-up
Front:
------
Shock Oil.............. 50wt
Pistons.......... Stock
Spring........... Stock black springs
Ride height ..... 5mm preload, arms level
Shock pos........ outside on arm, Upper Middle on tower
Shock ends....... Racers Edge 3.0mm Aluminum
Shock travel...... Full travel
Ackerman pos..... Middle hole
Sway bar......... Stock 3.0mm
Front Caster..... 17 Degrees
Upper arm pos.... Top holes
Diff oil......... 5000wt
Camber........... -1 degree
Toe.............. 1 degree out
Tires............ Proline Crimefighters
Foams............ Racers Edge 2 stage
Center:
-------
Diff............. 7000wt
Brakes........... Carbon Fiber disc's 40/60 bias
Spur Gear........ 50 tooth
Clutch Bell...... 13 tooth
Clutch Shoes.....Mugen Carbon
Clutch Springs... Mugen 1.0
Engine........... Novarossi P5x Eb Modded
Cooling Head..... Stock
Tuned pipe....... Jammin JP-2
Steering Servo... Air 94359z
Throttle Servo... Air 94359z
Rear:
-----
Oil.............. 50wt
Pistons.......... Stock
Spring........... Stock black springs
Ride height ..... 10mm preload, arms just above level
Shock pos........ Inside on arm, Upper Middle on tower
Shock ends....... Racers Edge 3.0mm Aluminum
Shock travel..... Full travel
Upper arm pos..... Top hole
Arm pos hub...... Inner hole
Hub pos........ Upper hole
Camber........... -1 degree
Toe in........... 2 degree Racers Edge block
Diff oil......... 2000
Sway bar......... Stock 3.0mm
Wing position.... angled up
Tires............ Proline Crimefighers
Foams............Racers Edge 2 stage
General truggy/arena talk - Blown5.0 - 01-16-2006
Is the HPI Hellfire basically the same truck as the LSP?
General truggy/arena talk - Eracer76 - 01-16-2006
Blown5.0 Wrote:Is the HPI Hellfire basically the same truck as the LSP?
Nope, it does have the same basic layout, like all truggies, but everything is newly designed and different, like the bulkhead/diffs, upper chassis plates and so on.
General truggy/arena talk - rocco79 - 01-16-2006
Yeah, i hope there good being an hpi guy.... But not toooooo goood! LOL
General truggy/arena talk - snakebite46 - 01-16-2006
Hellfire comes with 17mm hexes too ?
Anyone planning on checking one out ?
General truggy/arena talk - snakebite46 - 01-16-2006
Has anyone noticed that the LSP with the suspension hanging or level frt feels tight but when the suspension is under full compression the C-hubs have alot of slop ?
General truggy/arena talk - Mr. Tune - 01-16-2006
snakebite46 Wrote:Anyone planning on checking one out ?
I am. You UMT guys need a good challenge in that class.
General truggy/arena talk - snakebite46 - 01-16-2006
good challenge ? You mean dodging lane jumpers ? =P
J/K Tune.
General truggy/arena talk - rocco79 - 01-16-2006
Snake its engineered slop! LOL! Just deal with it
General truggy/arena talk - snakebite46 - 01-16-2006
So my guess is that yours does the same thing ?
General truggy/arena talk - Eracer76 - 01-16-2006
snakebite46 Wrote:Has anyone noticed that the LSP with the suspension hanging or level frt feels tight but when the suspension is under full compression the C-hubs have alot of slop ?
There was a subject posted about on Truggyracers.com
People started posting problems with the front suspension binding, which was actually making the steering tight when the arms would hang below level.
They found that some of the newer LSP's had a problem with the front shafts being too long or posibly the axles are the cause, no one knew for sure though.
Some were so bad that they had to run positive camber just to keep it from binding.
The quick fix is to put in some MGT shafts, which are a little bit shorter then then the stock shafts, but still work with the stock axles. Some also took a dremel to the diff cups and made them deeper, which I guess worked ok too.
Is this the problem that your talking about?
General truggy/arena talk - Mr. Tune - 01-16-2006
Does anyone know what the wheelbase on the LSP is?