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1st phone=Tmobile(sucks) second phone= Sprint(I get service in the bottom of a 15 story cruise ship, that far down is under water to)

I did hear that there are collection companies that are still trying to collect from the familes of people who were on the plane and used those air phones.

Tune you freakin Sally!! I wanted to see that sh1t!

Here's the conspiracy video. I hope it doesn't get deleted.

Original Version - http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=...ange&hl=en

2nd Edition - http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=...ange&hl=en

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squirrel Wrote:Proof, I flew from Chicago to Las Vegas, with my cell phone on. I know ILLEGAL as hell and not once through the entire flight did i get a signal. Also done it to Denver and Kentucky(Kentucky was only a 45 minute flight)

I'm not a conspiracy kinda guy, but I am educated. It's not impossible for me to see that there are no remains of a plane at the pentagon!

Why do you think there wer no remains at the pentagon? Because you saw it on an internet video?
There were remains of the plane at the pentagon. Lots and lots of remains. All of the remains, in fact. The joke vid uses selective pictures and other FX to create the illusion ( or delusion ) of the conspiracy. This is soo old, its just sad.

Also. I fly several times a year. I have found my phone left on on many occasions. Usually, mid flight, my wife asks if I left my phone on again, and I look and find it on. Most of the time with a good signal. If yours does not, its likely the phone company's fault. In fact. the industry was about to pass new rules ALLOWING cell phone use throughout the flight, but the public opposition to such an annoyance was high.

For more info, a lame google search turned up this, among others:
http://ourworld.cs.com/mikegriffith1/refute.htm
not only were the wreckage of the planes recovered, but BOTH black boxes along with eyewitness testamony, etc, etc ,etc,etc.....

Everytime i fly my cell phone doesnt work... Ive heard its impossible your moving too fast and your too far away from the towers... Next time try placing a call... Im sure your call will NOT go through, its a false signal strengh reading.

Again, the airline industry was about to pass new rules allowing full cell phone use on planes, just this past summer. They are able to work on planes.

Nevertheless, the pentagon vid you all are refering to is a very old, well debunked hoaks. Its practically a dinosaur now.

Also, truly, think about what it would take to pull of a secret - X files - conspiracy like that. THINK. Okay, now that you are thinking, imagine how many people it would take, how many blabbermouths would need to be silenced. C'mon now. Not only the conspiraters, but their spouses, kids, friends, janitors. C'mon. And this is just the tip of the iceburg, next to the fact that this whole theory is so easily proven to be crap.

mythbuster did a segement on how cells dont work that high up.... You sure it wasnt somthing too do with the built in phones?

what about the video of the towers? there is some very convincing evidence there

Those guys saying there was outside help to make them fall? Please. Those floors were turned into a oven for one with all that fuel that started the fire. Your talking every item up there was turned into one big out of control bonfire across what,5-6 floors if not more?

And on top of that. I have seen how they built those towers on the history channel BEFORE that happened. That building was built with the support on the OUTSIDE of the building. Which was why there was so much space inside. Once you cut the support for the building on the outside. It was only a matter of time before the heat from the fire was able to make the steel and iron hot enough to bend and melt.

I had to laugh when that guy in the video was talking about how the other building around the towers fell. Saying it was controlled. No,I'm sorry. I have seen to many of those video's and when they take down a building. They don't just blow the first few floors. They blow them all the way up,so if that was the case,there would have been floors higher up blowing out and that did not happen. That guy saying that the planes did not hit any other buildings. It is a fact that parts of the planes and towers were found blocks away from the towers. Hell,I think a engine was found in the street no where near them!

The fact is,when the iron and steel got hot enough,the floor supports gave out and it just fell in on itself and the outside of the building just 'peeled' away as you see in the video. Causing the towers to continue to fall. The damaged areas were not made to handle that much weight with so much of the support taken out. Your talking about a 50-60ft gap in floors taken out if not more. So once the upper part fell. It was over.

As for the other buildings. Their damage came when the towers fell. They(the towers) came down on themselves but the debris didn't say there. Say you have a cup of dirt,you dump it out. When it hits the ground,it doesn't stay in one little pile where it hits. It moves out and covers more area. There is the damage that would be needed to knock out the supports to other buildings. And seeing all that metal and concrete was just turned into a 2,000+ deg. oven. It was not a shocker to see the other buildings take enough damage to fall.

So if what these guys are saying is true. And the reason why these buildings fell is true. Then we are talking about the largest cover up in the history of the world. JFK and Roswell come no where near what scale of work would be needed for this. For the amount of manpower that would have been needed. The amount of material needed. And the amount of things that needed to go perfect without one thing being noticed before or after by the thousands of people around. By the media and everyone else that has been there. I find it basically impossible that what those guys are saying is true.

Now as for the other stuff. The pentagon was MADE to handle things like that. The rings were made to protect each other. Which is why the damage is how you see it. There is video of the plane hitting the ground about 100 yards or so before the building. Having to come in on such an angle,it basically did just 'skip' and slam into the building.

And who knows how flight 93 went down. No one saw it. But I do remember seeing overhead shots later in the day and there was wreckage. There were fires going on. And there was debris there. And how can they explain the calls from the air phones that people made. I watched a show on flight 93 and the wife of one of the people that fought back was telling her what was going on the whole time. She heard them fight,she heard it all happen,then the phone went dead. So is her husband lying about it?

As mike and myself have said. If you sit back and look at what it would have taken for everything to happen the way it did with outside help. Any smart person would see that it would have taken an army to do what was needed. And with the world watching everything unfold. I find it impossible that they would have pulled it off without a hitch. With all the manpower that would have been needed to do it. There is no way someone would have kept quiet all this time.

These people are people who refuse to accept what is told to them. "what? no,there has to be another reason." type people. That is all they do. And I will bet my next paycheck that the next attack that happens in this country. They will be there again,right after it happens trying to find out another reason to what and why things happened. Pointing the finger at the government yelling cover up and crying foul.

i dunno i still dont see how the other buildings around it could have gone down like that, not to mention of the little "spits" or whatever at each floor as both of the towers fell, looked very very similar to demolition videos they showed of buildings being imploded.

9/11 was a well documented terrorist attack that succeeded due to extreme luck and our own inattention. Thats it. That is the simplest explanation. The alternative explanation is a nearly impossible, highly unlikely, very complicated and yet feeble thread of suspision and paranoia.

Cell phones on planes. Washington Post:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/art...Dec15.html

Popular Mechanics full series on 9/11 myths:
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technolo...27842.html

All i can say is DAMN

Quote:Now as for the other stuff. The pentagon was MADE to handle things like that. The rings were made to protect each other. Which is why the damage is how you see it. There is video of the plane hitting the ground about 100 yards or so before the building. Having to come in on such an angle,it basically did just 'skip' and slam into the building.

Ok I get the pentagon is made to handle it! But tell me why there is no debris from the plane and the hole is only like 10 feet wide? I have flown on many a commercial plane and have never been on one that small!!! That and the tire tracks were in the lawn a week prior to the crash?

Also does anyone on this board truly know what goes on at Roswell? I think they can do a pretty good job of coverong stuff up.

Roswell is awesome.... I've been to Roswell NM, went to a ufo museum...Pretty cool stuff.

It was a different world back then. So there will never be a true way to find out. As for what went on back on 9/11. The world was watching. So it is very hard to hide something. And for every person that wants to bring up another theory of what happened and why saying the feds are covering up the real reason. Other people can call up 10 people who will say that what happened is correct. This in the end will end up being a roswell and JFK all over again. And it will remain that way for the rest of time.

squirrel Wrote:Ok I get the pentagon is made to handle it! But tell me why there is no debris from the plane and the hole is only like 10 feet wide? I have flown on many a commercial plane and have never been on one that small!!! That and the tire tracks were in the lawn a week prior to the crash?

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I dont know what pictures your looking at,but I know what I saw the day of and ya,I saw what used to be a plane fly into the building,I saw a whole section gone. And I saw parts all over the place 3 rings deep.

I have never heard of tire tracks on the lawn.

And only a hole 10 feet wide? I think your looking at the wrong pictures.

http://www.911myths.com/html/pentagon_13.html

Judging by the "No parking" sign, I would say the hole is about 10 feet tall. But that IS the exit hole so the entry hole might be bigger.

http://www.cnn.com/video/portable/promop...ource=pop/

Hope this helps

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/05/16/pentago...index.html

Can you find that video somewhere else, I got about half way through but wanted to start it over and then some other video came up, and then I closed out the page and it said I can only view that page once a day, the POS cnn is.

Everything I find on Youtube is broken up in parts.

An airplane is skin is like a sausage skin. It desintegrates on an impact like that. All the force of the impact and damage is cause by the fuel and debris within the skin. Its like having a river crash into it at 300 mph.
Look at some of the links here:
http://ourworld.cs.com/mikegriffith1/refute.htm
The USA did not commit 911. I really do not want to argue with the delusional hoaxsters who made that vid and propagate their myth, so I'm signing off on this thread.