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Will the brushless 5800 fit in a TC4? - 07-27-2005, 11:04 AM

I'm unsure what size the motor is in these cars. Will the Novak 5800 fit?
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07-27-2005, 11:49 AM

Dad, the TC4 accepts standard 540-size can motors. so yes a 5800 brushless should fit in there. Are you thinking about one?
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07-27-2005, 12:35 PM

So it won't fit in a TC3?

I need to get one so I can race at a track nearby.
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07-27-2005, 12:44 PM

It will fit in a TC3 as well...
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07-27-2005, 01:22 PM

yeah it will fit either a TC3 or TC4.

I used to have one my old TC3 when the Novak BL first came out.



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07-27-2005, 01:54 PM

Someone said you have to make modifications to the TC3. Walt in Tinley Park said the BL system doesn't keep up with the brushed systems real well.
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07-27-2005, 02:20 PM

It's probaly a little grinding If you have to make any mods at all, nothing a Dremel can't handle.
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07-27-2005, 02:35 PM

I think the only mod I had to make on my TC3 to make it work was dremel one small spot to clear the wires comming out from the back of the motor. Nothing else.

If you are talking about running in Modified classes with a BL it will not keep up simply because it does not put out as much power as a very well maintained top end mod motors. It also could be the way the BL was geared. Novak BL's make tons of power in at a lower RPM than mod motors so it should be geared with a large pinion to keep it into the powerband. The huge benefit of the Novak BL though is NO maintence.. NO turning coms, no changing brushes, no motor cleaning. just drop the batteries in and go.

are you planing on racing this? if so I'd forget the BL and get good electronics and a couple good 27t motors and concentrate on setup and smooth driving in the stock class and work your way up. If its just for bashing around go for it with the BL.


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07-27-2005, 02:49 PM

He said the competitive guys are running 8 & 9 turn motors.
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07-27-2005, 11:10 PM

The 8 and 9 turn motors would be the Modified class that Six was talking about. Check to see if they have a "Stock" class at tinley, which is 27t motors. It will be a much better starting block for anyone first getting into racing, because it is slower, and gives you a chance to get accustomed to racing. Also, with the Stock class, the cars would be a little more even, it would come down to the Driver as to who wins. Starting into racing, running a LOW turn motor, can get VERY frustrating, very fast. The car will be too fast for a beginner racer, and actually much harder to control. Also, the lower turn motors, will need more maintenance. Look into investing in a decent com Lathe, and keep backup brushes handy at all times.
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07-28-2005, 04:19 AM

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What setup is legal to race with or are there enough classes to accommodate everyone? i.e. if I bought a brushless setup.
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The electric class is 'open mod', so the only rules are: touring car body, 6-cells. You'd be fine with your brushless motor as long as you stick to 6-cells max.

The fast setup is running foam tires, but rubber tires are also allowed.

The fastest electric guys are running motors in the 8 to 9 turn range. The Novak SS5800 doesn't quite keep up, but it's fairly competitive. I've never seen anyone at our track running one of the sensorless brushless motors, in case that's what you've got. It would be allowed though.
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07-28-2005, 10:51 AM

hey rcdad im buying a brushless motor from novak for my xxxt its their new one the GTB racing esc and velociti or something brushless motor its a 5.5 turn motor and i asked the guys at novak they said its about the equivalent to a 8 to 9 turn brushed motor. and theres a no turn limit for brushed motors on the esc. i was stupid and almost bought it from horizon. they have it for 382 dollars. i checked tower hobbies and they have it for 240 dollars.its not out tho its coming out late july. so i have it on back order. novak said they gave it to a lot of proffesional drivers and they one a lot of races with it. with your check thats coming maybe you can get a new bl system lol


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07-28-2005, 11:07 AM

I've been wanting to get a MGM Compro 80 and Feigao 8s motor but I'll wait and see what its like racing on-road first.

I'll see what the other guys are using.
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08-04-2005, 09:16 AM

ah...found this board.

I regularly race at Tinley, Trackside, AJ's, and wherever else there is electric TC. Not sure if I met any of you but I always run the Open TC class at Tinley. If you have electric TC questions I might be able to help.

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- There is only one electric class at Tinley....Open Class.
- Even for a beginner a stock motor would be reeeeally slow at Tinley. The straight is almost 140-150ft long and a stock motor would just take forever to finish. If you are running outdoors and want something a little more mild then a Mod just run a 19T.
- Overall the Novak Brushless is pretty fast and efficienty. For someone new this is nice because it has the speed and you have zero maintenence. Just gear down so you car can't hit super speeds.


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08-04-2005, 09:31 AM

You going to be there Sunday Nexus?
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08-04-2005, 09:34 AM

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You going to be there Sunday Nexus?

So far that is my plan. I just raced the Summer Sizzler at Trackside so I need to convert my cars over from the indoor setup. I usually pit with Jimmy Stegan under an American Flag canopy if anyone needs help.


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