New Savage .28!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[rocco79]

Just saw on savage central hpi is going to release a new s.s. kit with almost every popular aftermarket hop up!!!!! Since im at the fire house i cant paste any of the pics they have at savage-central.com but if you go there just search savage 4.6 and feast your eyes on this baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
New from HPI Racing is a high performance update to unassembled Savage SS monster truck, the Savage SS 4.6!

The heart of the Savage SS 4.6 is a completely new 4.6cc (.28 cubic inch) engine that pumps out 2.9 horsepower for a top speed of 44 mph and enough power to do wheelies on command! The powerful K4.6 engine has an anodized billet aluminum head to keep it cool even during extreme off-road driving, true ABC construction using a long-life chromed sleeve, an all-new 8.5mm composite carburetor for high performance and improved high temperature tuning, and a pullstarter for easy starting. The addition of our dual chamber polished aluminum tuned pipe provides a wide powerband and higher top speed, optimized with revised 47/17 gearing. And, a new dual stage air filter with increased filtering capacity is included to help protect and extend the life of the K4.6 powerplant.

To handle the extreme power we’ve added heavy duty parts as standard equipment. Front and rear “4 gear” differentials with updated gears are included for added durability. The entire drivetrain is now equipped with heavy duty diff shafts and cup joints for strength and extended service intervals. High grip Dirt Bonz tires put the power to the ground, and they’re nearly 40% lighter than our standard Savage tires for quicker acceleration. To beef up the braking our dual disc brake kit is standard, featuring two vented stainless steel disc brakes and a machined steel brake hub. Even the steering has been upgraded to an accurate cam-type servo saver, delivering quick steering response and added servo protection.

Since the Savage SS 4.6 is an evolution of the original Savage SS, it includes the features that made the SS so popular. It’s in kit form, not preassembled, so experienced R/C modelers can have the pleasure and satisfaction of building it themselves. Kits also allows owners to build the kit to their exact specifications and customize the truck by adding any option parts such as our Reverse Module, anodized TVP and roll bar sets and Roto Start System during assembly. Since many drivers already have advanced radio systems that are perfect for the Savage SS 4.6, we don't include a radio, which helps lower the price so that we can add high performance hop-up parts and still keep the cost of the truck low. Simply put, kits are fun, convenient and price-conscious!

And, the Savage is one of the toughest R/C monster trucks ever! From the heavy duty TVP chassis design to the massive suspension arms, the Savage SS 4.6 is designed to be driven hard and survive the challenge. And all Savage trucks are supported with a huge assortment of available options parts from HPI and other aftermarket companies, so owners can customize their Savage exactly how they want it. Step up the speed, power and durability of a Savage SS 4.6!

Savage SS 4.6 features:

Nitro Star K4.6 Engine
High torque, 2.9 horsepower engine that is reliable, easy to maintain and easy to tune. Billet aluminum head provides high efficiency cooling, composite carburetor for consistent performance, pull starter equipped for easy starting.

High Performance Polished Tuned Pipe
Dual chamber design for higher top speed and wide power band.

Dirt Bonz Tires
40% lighter than the stock tires for more speed, soft and sticky S-compound rubber for high traction on dirt surfaces.

Dual Disc Brake
Stainless steel, drilled disc brakes provide serious stopping power, enough to do "brakies" on command.

Heavy Duty Diff Shafts and Cup Joints
Hardened for extra strength and to lengthen the time between re-builds.

Adjustable Upper Arms
Turnbuckles allow easy adjustability of the suspension geometry for improved handling and performance.

8 Spoke Wheel Satin Chrome
Realistic styling with a finish that looks like real aluminum, lightweight nylon construction for durability.

4-Gear Differentials
For increased drivetrain durability as well as extended time between maintenance.

Cam Type Servo Saver
Adjustable design allows precise tuning for optimal steering response and extra servo gear protection.

Heavy Duty 3 Shoe Clutch System
The 3 shoe clutch system paired with the massively “torquey” K4.6 engine gives you the power to do wheelies on command!

Optimized Gearing Ratios
With the 47Tooth Spur Gear and 17Tooth Clutch Bell, the Savage is geared for monster torque and wheelies on command!

Heavy Duty Dogbones
A powerful engine requires a heavy duty drivetrain for durability. We’ve got you covered with heavy duty dogbones, diff shafts and cup joints.

Front and Rear Skidplate Bumpers
Realistic skidplate bumpers made of high impact nylon look great and minimize crash damage.

2 Speed!
Adjustable 2 Speed Transmission with heavy duty metal internal gears for durability, bottom end punch and high top speed. Adjustable slipper clutch for drivetrain protection.

Nitro Star K4.6 engine features:

ABC Construction
The K4.6 engine features true ABC (Aluminum, Brass, & Chrome) construction — the ultimate in strength, durability, and high performance. The 8 port sleeve is made from durable chrome plated brass for strength and durability, and the lightened piston is made of lightweight aluminum for optimal performance. The knife-edged aluminum connecting rod is streamlined for performance and includes bushings on each end for added durability and strength.

8 Port Chrome Plated Brass Sleeve
Designed to operate at very high rpm's and crank out serious horse power!

Flushed Screw Settings for Fuel Mixture
The stock carburetor settings are made flush for convenient “back to factory settings.” This avoids unnecessary damage to the needle that other traditional carburetor designs can cause.

Hand Adjustable High Speed Needle
Conveniently tune your engine’s high speed needle by hand - no tools necessary! Tuning your engine just got easier.

Machined Head
Billet aluminum heat sink for better cooling and durability. Machined cut-outs for convenient access to mounting screws for easy disassembly.

Huge, 8.5mm Composite Carburetor
The composite material dissipates heat more efficiently than cast aluminum making your engine idle smoother and run more consistently throughout the whole rpm range.

Durable Finned Aluminum Crankcase
Cast aluminum crankcase is designed for maximum durability and heat dissipation with numerous heat sink fins.

Innovative Dual Stage Air Filter Design
The “High Flow” Dual Stage Air Filter dramatically reduces intake restriction as it smoothes and straightens air flow. More air means more usable power and acceleration throughout the engine’s rpm range. The innovative design also offers unprecedented protection from dirt and dust.

[NitroNoob]

Here are the pics from Savage-Central.

[rocco79]

Thanks bud!!!

[Mr. Tune]

Nice!!

[NitroNoob]

To bad they are not including the 3-speed tranny with it.

I'll still have to pick one of these bad boys up when they become available.

[rocco79]

I dont like the 3 needle carb.... Just an opinon. My o.g. 21bb in my savage had 3 needles and the "mid" needle was taboo so i never screwed with it . Whats the advantage to the x-tra needle?????

[Smokey]

I'm just glad to see that HPI listens to its customers.... This edition of the truck looks to be the best ever.... The 3 needle carb is supposed to afford you a "more exact" tune according to the "experts"..... but I'm weary of it too....

[ATA_Thrash]

Looks cool

[NitroNoob]

I dont care for the new tires and wheels, but I can always throw my Q6 with stock tires on it.

[rocco79]

The tires are good... Probaly need trinity foams... Its the wheels i dont like. I dont know why they came out with all these new flashy wheels but decided to make them outta the same material that the Original savage wheels are made of... Its just not durable thats why they came up with the q6 wheel

[Smokey]

I've only had my savage for a few months but the wheels show no signs of wear and all I've done is hard core bashing with it, alot of air. But I don't like the real soft ruber on the wheels and the inserts are waaaay too soft. I'll probably get a set of those bones tires and the q6 wheels with some third party inserts.

All the new stuff on the SS 4.6 looks great.

The cam servo saver should be awsome I run the OFNA one and it has changed my sloppy, inprecise steering to something that allows my servo to turn the wheels on the ground while the truck is stopped! (the servo saver that came with the truck was garbage should be the first upgrade for every savage it makes the truck sooooo much nicer to drive)

The dual chamber pipe is a welcome change since the ribbed one I got with the SS 25 is loud and that is about it.

The stainless dual brakes are a nice touch and allegedly they changed design slightly of the "servo saver" for the throtle and brake so it works a bit better.

And I can't forget the 4 gear diffs since that is recommended by just about everyone after they take apart thier diffs and see the carnage that even the stock 25 engine wrecks on the cups.

The nicest thing of course is that almost all the upgrades (haven't seen the part num for the engine yet) for the SS 4.6 are available now or soon will be and are all direct replacements for the current trucks. I'll probably phase in all the major changes they made into my truck as things break/wear out...

And as a fairly new guy to the RC hobby it sets my heart at ease that HPI is standing behind the Savage and it seems they feel that the design will take them through at least 2005 with fairly minor changes. As a guy with a wife and kids I don't have heaps of money to throw at this hobby and seeing the HPI commitment to this product makes me feel a whole lot better about the $500+ that I'v spent so far on the truck. Just my 2 cents.

[NitroNoob]

Originally Posted by Smokey

I've only had my savage for a few months but the wheels show no signs of wear and all I've done is hard core bashing with it, alot of air. But I don't like the real soft ruber on the wheels and the inserts are waaaay too soft. I'll probably get a set of those bones tires and the q6 wheels with some third party inserts.

I have had two sets of the stock tires. The first set was worn where the tire is glued to the rim. The second set got mangled when my truck was hit by a car, thats when I went to the Q6/Stock tire setup. I also tried the 7" UFO tires and rims from HotBodies, didnt care for them.

Originally Posted by Smokey

The cam servo saver should be awsome I run the OFNA one and it has changed my sloppy, inprecise steering to something that allows my servo to turn the wheels on the ground while the truck is stopped! (the servo saver that came with the truck was garbage should be the first upgrade for every savage it makes the truck sooooo much nicer to drive)

I havent changed the servo saver, my steering setup is all stock except for the Hitec steering servo I put in.

Originally Posted by Smokey

The dual chamber pipe is a welcome change since the ribbed one I got with the SS 25 is loud and that is about it.

I have only ever used the stock pipe and the ribbed pipe, I currently have a black ribbed pipe on my truck right now, I like it.

Originally Posted by Smokey

The stainless dual brakes are a nice touch and allegedly they changed design slightly of the "servo saver" for the throtle and brake so it works a bit better.

This has been my #1 issue with the truck since the day I bought it. The stock setup faded really fast and I had almost no brakes after the first day of running the truck. I have gone through 4 or 5 sets of the dual brake setup and every time I end up ripping the pads off of the caliper pieces. I have done a custom brake setup on my truck using the stock carbon disk and multiple plates to get the truck to stop the way I want it to.

Originally Posted by Smokey

And I can't forget the 4 gear diffs since that is recommended by just about everyone after they take apart thier diffs and see the carnage that even the stock 25 engine wrecks on the cups.

Havent done this yet either. I do have a second set of diff's that I plan to modify with the HPI 4 spider kit, but I have had pretty good luck with my stock 2 gear setup.

Originally Posted by Smokey

As a guy with a wife and kids I don't have heaps of money to throw at this hobby and seeing the HPI commitment to this product makes me feel a whole lot better about the $500+ that I'v spent so far on the truck.

I have a wife and 3 kids, so I know where you are coming from.

[rocco79]

[quote=Smokey]I've only had my savage for a few months but the wheels show no signs of wear and all I've done is hard core bashing with it, alot of air. But I don't like the real soft ruber on the wheels and the inserts are waaaay too soft. I'll probably get a set of those bones tires and the q6 wheels with some third party inserts.

Wait till you upgrade motors your hexes will turn those wheels into swiss cheese

[Mr. Tune]

Originally Posted by rocco79

Wait till you upgrade motors your hexes will turn those wheels into swiss cheese

Yup.

[rocco79]

tune knows what im talkin about

[thenewguy821]

Call me crazy, but why is this thread the "Savage .28" thread, when it only discusses the Savage .46????

[grim digger]

chris it is not savage .46, but a savage 4.6, .28 engine a .46 engine is 7.2 or something like that the truckzilla engine,just a bit curious i had savages over 2 yrs never ripped up wheels hubs or hexes or even the wheels themselves,how would you guys tear yours up?i have various engines from wasps to trinity .27 to a couple zilla .46's and the most i ever ripped up was clutches,i still have the original tires and wheels from them ,so i just can not see wheel hubs spin out unless they where not real secure, enlighten me on this please,
GD

[thenewguy821]

My mistake... I just saw the 46, and didn't pay attention to the placement of the . Looks like HPI is doing the same advertising gimmick Traxxas used by making a .15 a 2.5 (I know one is cubic centimeteres, and one is cubic inches)

[rocco79]

Anything to keep up with the"biggers better" way of thinking in R/C i guess