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MX_KEVIN · (#1 (**permalink**))

Gunman opens fire on Ill. campus; up to 5 dead - Crime & courts - MSNBC.com...

Isnt Dan there???(aka FROSTY)

Ponch · (#2 (**permalink**))

THANKFULLY DAN IS IN CHAMPAIGN! Omg that is horrible...and way too close to home.

badmojo · (#3 (**permalink**))

Where Is Czech At?

Thirdgen89GTA · (#4 (**permalink**))

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Where Is Czech At?

Hopefully not there! Thats just sad though, I have trouble wrapping my mind around the mind-set needed to go on a spree like that.

thenewguy821 · (#5 (**permalink**))

It is always horrible to hear about these incidents. Unfortnately, as long as the government keeps making designated "Gun Free" zones, there will always be problems such as this. The Criminal will enter these "Safe" areas, knowing that he has plenty of time to wreak his havok, before anoyone can stop him. Look at how many Handgun crimes have been commited in Chicago alone, which has an all out ban on handguns. Obviously, the problem isn't the guns, it is the Criminal mind holding the gun.

hansarvin · (#6 (**permalink**))

I believe Czech goes to North Eastern, but don't quote me on that.

Ponch · (#7 (**permalink**))

Got some good news today for a change...

Rodzo · (#8 (**permalink**))

Guns are completly the problem! If those criminals didn't have the guns, they would be helpless! Guns should only be for the military and police. Whatever idiot decided the general public should have access to them was the dumbest mother !#@$%@#$ ever! NRA - You bunch of idiots! See what your stand on the publics right to own fire arms is when your kid is killed by one! I went to NIU 10 years ago. Most of my classes were in that place. It realyl struck home for me, I can see it happeneing. And especially being a parent now - what's safe anymore. There is no way to prevent this. This could happen at your job, at school, anyplace! It would be a lot more difficult with knives! Guns are a problem. Ans why do all these people then kill themselves? Why not just do that from the get go instead of making innocent people and their families suffer. I could go on...this really pisses me off. This is the beginning of the end. We are going to self destruct as humans.

Ponch · (#9 (**permalink**))

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Originally Posted by Rodzo

Ans why do all these people then kill themselves? Why not just do that from the get go instead of making innocent people and their families suffer. I could go on...this really pisses me off. This is the beginning of the end. We are going to self destruct as humans.

My thoughts exactaly.

If you graduated last year or the year before.... What did that class do to you

thenewguy821 · (#10 (**permalink**))

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Originally Posted by Rodzo

Guns are completly the problem! If those criminals didn't have the guns, they would be helpless! Guns should only be for the military and police. Whatever idiot decided the general public should have access to them was the dumbest mother !#@$%@#$ ever!

This is the typical spin that the brainwashing Big Government is pushing on people. The "dumbest mother !#@$%@#$ ever!" were the founding fathers of this country, NOT the NRA, who believed it was the citizens right to be able to protect themselves from 2 different types of enemies.... 1. Foreign invaders, trying to take our liberties and freedoms. AND 2. A tyranical government, trying to take our liberties and freedoms away.

If guns really are the problem, why are these incidents happening in "Gun free zones"? In the City of Chicago, it is Illegal to own a handgun, but in the City of Chicago, we have the largest number of Handgun related crimes in the country. The Criminals, who obtain their guns Illegally, know that the legal citizens have no means of protection. Adding stricter gun laws will do absolutely nothing to stop the crimes, because criminals will not stop obtaining illegal weapons, just because it is "Against the Law". After all, they are Criminals, what is one more law broken to them?

You can try to throw the Virginia Tech Massacre into the mix, saying that Virginia is a Right to Carry state, and why weren't the students protected there. It all comes back to the simple fact that even though Virginia is a Right to Carry state, Schools are "Gun Free zones". A college campus was probably the ONLY place in that state that he could have gone on that severe of a rampage before being cornered to the point of suicide.

Think about it for a minute, If someone is going to go on a shooting rampage, where is he most likely to go? To a Police station, where there are numerous armed officers ready to take him down at the first sign of trouble, or to an area where there is no likelyhood of ANYONE being able to stop him?

I'm sorry the incident that happened today hit so close to home for you, and I hope that nobody you know was injured in the shootings.

Another thing to keep in mind, is more people die on a yearly basis from Car accidents than from a gun (with the exception of war), so shoud we seek to ban cars now too?

rusty savage · (#11 (**permalink**))

well put chief!

motoxer4life · (#12 (**permalink**))

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Originally Posted by thenewguy821

This is the typical spin that the brainwashing Big Government is pushing on people. The "dumbest mother !#@$%@#$ ever!" were the founding fathers of this country, NOT the NRA, who believed it was the citizens right to be able to protect themselves from 2 different types of enemies.... 1. Foreign invaders, trying to take our liberties and freedoms. AND 2. A tyranical government, trying to take our liberties and freedoms away.

If guns really are the problem, why are these incidents happening in "Gun free zones"? In the City of Chicago, it is Illegal to own a handgun, but in the City of Chicago, we have the largest number of Handgun related crimes in the country. The Criminals, who obtain their guns Illegally, know that the legal citizens have no means of protection. Adding stricter gun laws will do absolutely nothing to stop the crimes, because criminals will not stop obtaining illegal weapons, just because it is "Against the Law". After all, they are Criminals, what is one more law broken to them?

You can try to throw the Virginia Tech Massacre into the mix, saying that Virginia is a Right to Carry state, and why weren't the students protected there. It all comes back to the simple fact that even though Virginia is a Right to Carry state, Schools are "Gun Free zones". A college campus was probably the ONLY place in that state that he could have gone on that severe of a rampage before being cornered to the point of suicide.

Think about it for a minute, If someone is going to go on a shooting rampage, where is he most likely to go? To a Police station, where there are numerous armed officers ready to take him down at the first sign of trouble, or to an area where there is no likelyhood of ANYONE being able to stop him?

I'm sorry the incident that happened today hit so close to home for you, and I hope that nobody you know was injured in the shootings.

Another thing to keep in mind, is more people die on a yearly basis from Car accidents than from a gun (with the exception of war), so shoud we seek to ban cars now too?

Cars are a necessity for the public, guns arent

Traxxas_Junkee · (#13 (**permalink**))

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Originally Posted by thenewguy821

This is the typical spin that the brainwashing Big Government is pushing on people. The "dumbest mother !#@$%@#$ ever!" were the founding fathers of this country, NOT the NRA, who believed it was the citizens right to be able to protect themselves from 2 different types of enemies.... 1. Foreign invaders, trying to take our liberties and freedoms. AND 2. A tyranical government, trying to take our liberties and freedoms away.

If guns really are the problem, why are these incidents happening in "Gun free zones"? In the City of Chicago, it is Illegal to own a handgun, but in the City of Chicago, we have the largest number of Handgun related crimes in the country. The Criminals, who obtain their guns Illegally, know that the legal citizens have no means of protection. Adding stricter gun laws will do absolutely nothing to stop the crimes, because criminals will not stop obtaining illegal weapons, just because it is "Against the Law". After all, they are Criminals, what is one more law broken to them?

You can try to throw the Virginia Tech Massacre into the mix, saying that Virginia is a Right to Carry state, and why weren't the students protected there. It all comes back to the simple fact that even though Virginia is a Right to Carry state, Schools are "Gun Free zones". A college campus was probably the ONLY place in that state that he could have gone on that severe of a rampage before being cornered to the point of suicide.

Think about it for a minute, If someone is going to go on a shooting rampage, where is he most likely to go? To a Police station, where there are numerous armed officers ready to take him down at the first sign of trouble, or to an area where there is no likelyhood of ANYONE being able to stop him?

I'm sorry the incident that happened today hit so close to home for you, and I hope that nobody you know was injured in the shootings.

Another thing to keep in mind, is more people die on a yearly basis from Car accidents than from a gun (with the exception of war), so shoud we seek to ban cars now too?

Couldn't agree more. Nicely said!

DAVEC-NITRO-RS4 · (#14 (**permalink**))

Mike Czech goes to Northwestern.

This was sad to see....terrible news for all involved.

slaytanic · (#15 (**permalink**))

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Originally Posted by Rodzo