Chitown R/C  

 

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
(#1 (permalink))
Old
Notochord's Avatar
Notochord Offline
GG UNINSTALL
Notochord will become famous soon enough
 
Rating: 0% (0)
Join Date: May 2005
Location: North Shore
Send a message via AIM to Notochord
Brushless at leisure??? - 07-07-2005, 10:41 PM

Are brushless cars allowed at leisure, is there a class for them. because there are classes for them at ROAR races. and say if there wasnt then who would i be able to run with??? and i was thinking about getting this brushless system http://www.teamnovak.com/products/br...tem/index.html
that motor has a 6.5 turn motor and a 5.5 turn motor and it can use brushed motors with no limit
http://www.teamnovak.com/products/br...tem/index.html

this one has more turn bl motors and i think you can only run 12 turn brushed motors

i have enough money to spend on the gtb system its just that is it that much better then the s5000 to spend the extra money ????

thanks i cant decide


Gamer.
~Noto
Reply With Quote
(#2 (permalink))
Old
DAVEC-NITRO-RS4's Avatar
DAVEC-NITRO-RS4 Offline
Stop mocking me.
DAVEC-NITRO-RS4 is just really niceDAVEC-NITRO-RS4 is just really niceDAVEC-NITRO-RS4 is just really niceDAVEC-NITRO-RS4 is just really niceDAVEC-NITRO-RS4 is just really nice
 
Rating: 0% (0)
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Naperville, second only to Ft. Collins, CO.
07-08-2005, 12:30 PM

I don't know anything about electric RC, but I have a question?

Is it a 6.5 turn motor or is it a six 1/2 turn motor? And what is the diff tween a full turn motor and a half turn motor, if that's really what it is?
Reply With Quote
(#3 (permalink))
Old
db302's Avatar
db302 Offline
Old School Racing
db302 is on a distinguished road
 
Rating: 0% (0)
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Lisle, IL
01-06-2006, 02:30 AM

Hey all, I've got 16 years of electric R/C racing under my belt, hopefully my insight into this question helps. 6.5 and 6 1/2 turn motors are the same. The mechanics of how electric motors work is somewhat complex, not to offend anyone but it's like asking how a 4 stroke car engine functions when you have never seen one. Basically, the more turns the more torque/less rpm (horsepower). A 6.5 turn motor (depending on other variables) is a screaming mother of an electric motor. Most racers running non-brushless motors run 10 to 12 turn motors. Heck, back years ago fast motors ran 16-18 turns. I don't want to be whipping a dead horse here, but I hope I am starting to illustrate my point. Anyway, I realize this is off-topic for this forum (nitro). I can go on for hours about electric stuff, PM me if you want me to bore you to death. Race On!
Reply With Quote
(#4 (permalink))
Old
ATA_Thrash Offline
Senior Member
ATA_Thrash is on a distinguished road
 
Rating: 0% (0)
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Montgomery
Send a message via MSN to ATA_Thrash
01-06-2006, 09:14 PM

I asked bernie this question myself Im not sure i got a strait answer but u could probly run in the mod class.
Reply With Quote
(#5 (permalink))
Old
DAVEC-NITRO-RS4's Avatar
DAVEC-NITRO-RS4 Offline
Stop mocking me.
DAVEC-NITRO-RS4 is just really niceDAVEC-NITRO-RS4 is just really niceDAVEC-NITRO-RS4 is just really niceDAVEC-NITRO-RS4 is just really niceDAVEC-NITRO-RS4 is just really nice
 
Rating: 0% (0)
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Naperville, second only to Ft. Collins, CO.
01-06-2006, 09:21 PM

Db, thanks for answering my question...nobody touched it for 6 months! I find electric interesting, but the equipment that supports it seems really expensive compared to nitro, but you get that indoor carpet racing benefit during the winter (I would be going TC elec, if anything).

Man it's dead on here tonight. Everyone must have gone to practice tonight. Bummer.

Getting back to elec. I have seen that the electrics are way faster/quicker than nitro in touring cars. They just can't run the long races, like gas. Still, anything that goes 0-50 in 2.5 seconds is cool in my book.
Reply With Quote
(#6 (permalink))
Old
ATA_Thrash Offline
Senior Member
ATA_Thrash is on a distinguished road
 
Rating: 0% (0)
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Montgomery
Send a message via MSN to ATA_Thrash
01-06-2006, 09:21 PM

Oh and its a 6.5 turn Which is faster than any brushless out at the moment. Im looking to get a brushless setup for ease of maintainance and lipo batterys for 20 min run times. Oh and a 6 turn motor would be hard to drive most run 11 turns in the mod class.
Reply With Quote
(#7 (permalink))
Old
Notochord's Avatar
Notochord Offline
GG UNINSTALL
Notochord will become famous soon enough
 
Rating: 0% (0)
Join Date: May 2005
Location: North Shore
Send a message via AIM to Notochord
01-06-2006, 11:00 PM

I got my Brushless motor, its a 5.5 turn motor. its so fast i cant even drive it well i can drive it. its just stupid crazy fast. the tech info guy from novak said that its the equivalent of a 8 turn brushed motor. when i hit the gas the tires on the car baloon like 2.5 inches im kinda nervous about taking it to leisure hours and trying to race there


Gamer.
~Noto
Reply With Quote
(#8 (permalink))
Old
UE-Maxx's Avatar
UE-Maxx Offline
8ight
UE-Maxx is a jewel in the roughUE-Maxx is a jewel in the roughUE-Maxx is a jewel in the rough
 
Rating: 0% (0)
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Oak Lawn
01-07-2006, 12:20 AM

Why? Becuase you would need to slow down becuase everyone else is slower? LOL

I have a Traxxas Bandit with a 12t ESC and a 17t Kyosho motor. With my GP3300 it seems fast enough for me and long enough run times just for driving around in front of the house. If this motor ever breaks, I will probably get a lower turn motor.


FS-Sportwerks 1/8 Hauler
Reply With Quote
(#9 (permalink))
Old
Notochord's Avatar
Notochord Offline
GG UNINSTALL
Notochord will become famous soon enough
 
Rating: 0% (0)
Join Date: May 2005
Location: North Shore
Send a message via AIM to Notochord
01-07-2006, 03:32 PM

well i can drive my car fine on grass. to drive my car i need a lot of traction and i dont know how it will be like on a dirt track. if leisure hours had a long distance jumping contest i think i could do fairley well at it i drove my car off a ramp at full speed and it jumped like 30 feet now i gotta work on landing it


Gamer.
~Noto
Reply With Quote
(#10 (permalink))
Old
Tex Offline
Mugen/RB
Tex has a brilliant futureTex has a brilliant futureTex has a brilliant futureTex has a brilliant futureTex has a brilliant futureTex has a brilliant futureTex has a brilliant futureTex has a brilliant futureTex has a brilliant futureTex has a brilliant futureTex has a brilliant future
 
Rating: 0% (0)
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Austin, TX
01-08-2006, 01:37 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Notochord
to drive my car i need a lot of traction and i dont know how it will be like on a dirt track.
Leisure has more traction than any dirt you've ever seen....it's a clay track


Mugen MBX5T
RBS5
RB2045
All Futaba
Reply With Quote
(#11 (permalink))
Old
-nick's Avatar
-nick Offline
Senior Member
-nick will become famous soon enough
 
Rating: 0% (0)
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Woodstock
Send a message via AIM to -nick
01-08-2006, 07:29 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by ATA_Thrash
Oh and its a 6.5 turn Which is faster than any brushless out at the moment. [....]
i'm sorry, but what the hell are you talking about?
Reply With Quote
(#12 (permalink))
Old
BlackWolf42's Avatar
BlackWolf42 Offline
Love My 9ight!
BlackWolf42 will become famous soon enoughBlackWolf42 will become famous soon enough
 
Rating: 0% (0)
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Waukegan, Illinois
Send a message via Yahoo to BlackWolf42
01-08-2006, 08:12 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Notochord
I got my Brushless motor, its a 5.5 turn motor. its so fast i cant even drive it well i can drive it. its just stupid crazy fast. the tech info guy from novak said that its the equivalent of a 8 turn brushed motor. when i hit the gas the tires on the car baloon like 2.5 inches im kinda nervous about taking it to leisure hours and trying to race there
I've got the original Novak BL with the 5800. That speedo lets you dumb it down to "stock" speed/power settings. I haven't been into electric for a year or so as I'm not familiar with the new BL setups from Novak.

Does the new BL alow you to dumb it down to "Stock/Sportsman" also?
Reply With Quote
(#13 (permalink))
Old
ATA_Thrash Offline
Senior Member
ATA_Thrash is on a distinguished road
 
Rating: 0% (0)
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Montgomery
Send a message via MSN to ATA_Thrash
01-08-2006, 09:16 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by DAVEC-NITRO-RS4
I don't know anything about electric RC, but I have a question?

Is it a 6.5 turn motor or is it a six 1/2 turn motor? And what is the diff tween a full turn motor and a half turn motor, if that's really what it is?
i was answering daves question
Reply With Quote
(#14 (permalink))
Old
Tex Offline
Mugen/RB
Tex has a brilliant futureTex has a brilliant futureTex has a brilliant futureTex has a brilliant futureTex has a brilliant futureTex has a brilliant futureTex has a brilliant futureTex has a brilliant futureTex has a brilliant futureTex has a brilliant futureTex has a brilliant future
 
Rating: 0% (0)
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Austin, TX
01-08-2006, 12:32 PM

a 6.5 turn motor is not faster than every brushless out, only the "economy" brushless systems like Novak.

A good hacker or Lehner etc... will whip the snot out of it.


Mugen MBX5T
RBS5
RB2045
All Futaba
Reply With Quote
(#15 (permalink))
Old
Notochord's Avatar
Notochord Offline
GG UNINSTALL
Notochord will become famous soon enough
 
Rating: 0% (0)
Join Date: May 2005
Location: North Shore
Send a message via AIM to Notochord
01-11-2006, 06:58 PM

The other day i took my car out and did some jumps. I havent really jumped my car that much with my Brushless motor because i got it when it started getting cold. i made a short 45 second video of the jumps. http://media.putfile.com/hostingtflipfinal soon me and North Shore Racer are gonna make a video so this is a preview of whats to come lol


Gamer.
~Noto
Reply With Quote
(#16 (permalink))
Old
Tex Offline
Mugen/RB
Tex has a brilliant futureTex has a brilliant futureTex has a brilliant futureTex has a brilliant futureTex has a brilliant futureTex has a brilliant futureTex has a brilliant futureTex has a brilliant futureTex has a brilliant futureTex has a brilliant futureTex has a brilliant future
 
Rating: 0% (0)
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Austin, TX
01-11-2006, 07:41 PM

Awesome man...congrats on learning backflips....they are easier then you thought I bet


Mugen MBX5T
RBS5
RB2045
All Futaba
Reply With Quote
(#17 (permalink))
Old
Notochord's Avatar
Notochord Offline
GG UNINSTALL
Notochord will become famous soon enough
 
Rating: 0% (0)
Join Date: May 2005
Location: North Shore
Send a message via AIM to Notochord
01-11-2006, 08:16 PM

lol ya i did three or four jumps before that and each time i would get my car flipped vertical but i would freak out and flatten it out but then i finally grew the balls and just held on to the gas. im kinda low on money so i cant afford to break anything


Gamer.
~Noto