Look at the vast majority of the bashing videos, the Savages launch nice and then cartwheel upon landing. They are tough but you pay for it in performance.

As to the LSTs being competitive on bigger tracks, where? I raced last weekend against Savages, LSTs, and truggies on a very fast track with a 200 ft straight www.northernhobbies.com and only a truggy could beat the Revos-stock or highly modified like mine. Revos aren't just dominating the small tracks, they're dominating ALL tracks. Will a better non-truggy racer come along soon. Probably, but it won't be an LST.