That is why Sonny O is still running the LSP. I was talking to a guy at Al's... the truggy will be about $40 more than the 777 SP2 roller... putting it well into the $700 range. It is however supposed to destroy the current leaders, the LSP and Jammin Truggies. I plan on possibly picking up an LSP when people switch over to the Kyosho truggy.... (Unless I have to tie up too much cash in the revo.)