Newguy: Thanks for your input. He already has that radio so I don't know that is a major point to him but it is an important part of the deal cause it justifies the price. Getting a $200 radio makes the $600 price a little more understandable. That price tag is the only reason that the Losi didn't make my list when I was getting my truck(I got a wife, 2yr old twins, house etc so $600 bucks is a fortune).

Mostly bashing . He has raced RC before though with his RC10 and I know he liked that but from what I understand he really just wants it for bashing, I think he dosen't want to get into the money pit that racing can be. I'm kind of like that too. I got the Savage because it was built like a brick sh*thouse and the excellent parts support in the area for anything HPI.