hahaha....I like both of the pipes. I've probably seen this pipe run before not knowing it, and I've seen Tune's revo with stock motor and vantage pipe. I can tell you though, that the CF pipe stays cool enough that you can shut it off and not have to worry about burning the crap outta your hand. Also though, it uses the stock header, and that's pretty crappy....So you still have to deal with that issue of bending/breaking. My.02