I figured if he gets back to me in time we could bring it up at the meeting, maybe even setup something where a few of us could get together and look the area over and plan things out. A course designed and built by crawlers is ALLOT better than something made by people that dont know what a crawler is.... Look at how successful HT Napervilles course has been...Built by Crawlers for Crawlers. I would imagine LH has a larger area to play with and a little more money to put into it (not that it should cost allot). The only drawback will be that its outside and thus realy only usable for 4-5 months a year. Im loving all these man made courses being built.... it will never replace good natural formations but when you live in flatsville its nice.